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 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 03:01 am
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Hi everyone! My name is Bob and I am a 20 year old history major. I live in Pennsylvania and I go to school in New Jersey. I'm rarely afforded the opportunity to talk about the Civil War with anyone and so I'm happy to come aboard. I tend to focus my studies on the Confederacy, I can't really explain it. I guess its just the whole underdog mentality. Anyway I hope I can learn some new things from all you experts out there!

P.S.- I'm not really too much a fan of "Bloody" Bill Anderson, but the Missouri theater interests me and I thought it was a good name.



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 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 03:24 pm
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I tend to focus my studies on the Confederacy, I can't really explain it. I guess its just the whole underdog mentality.
Pull up a chair Bob. I too study the Confederacy because I can't really explain it either. But somewhere in the course of reading and discussing, I'll figure out why a breakaway group with virtually no industry would pick a fight with an industrial entity three times its size.

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welcome to the board BB!!!

all i have to say is diddo Bama!!!



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 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 08:14 pm
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"I'll figure out why a breakaway group with virtually no industry would pick a fight with an industrial entity three times its size."


You know something Ole, I think in alot of ways it was the approach of industry and the changes that would ensue that the South didn't want to have to face. Throughout 19th century history you see how so many countries reacted negatively to the Industrial Revoltuion.

In Japan around the 1870s, the Samurai class fought against a large, modernized, consripted army in order to preserve their old way of life. It was swords versus gatlin guns and repeating rifles. I tend to think of the South as an American samurai class fighting to preserve their old way of life. The outcome may have been assured from the start but the attempt had to be made nevertheless. Thats the way I think of it at least.



 Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 08:47 pm
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Welcome BloodyBob!:D

What got you interested in the Missouri theater?



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Welcome "Bloody"! I too am enamored to the Confederate side of things. I have to agree the underdog thing is probably a big reason. I live here in the heart of the old trans-Mississippi theater but have just this last year or so begun to really get interested in it. I've got trips to Honey Springs, Cabin Creek, Wilson's Creek, and Pea Ridge planned for the near future.
Again welcome to the group! These are some really sharp folks and you will enjoy it immensely.



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Couldn't have said it better myself, Bama!

Welcome, BB!

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You know something Ole, I think in alot of ways it was the approach of industry and the changes that would ensue that the South didn't want to have to face. Throughout 19th century history you see how so many countries reacted negatively to the Industrial Revoltuion.
Excellent observation, Bob! Gives a whole new slant on the subject.



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This ones to Izzy. I think what interests me about the Missouri theater is the pure anarchy that can be seen within the state from 1854 until the end of the war. There wasn't really any effective government or military units for that whole time period and so basically it was every man for himself. War was certainly done differently there; public opinion and meddling politicians held little sway over the way things were runned. Plus characters like "Bloody" Bill, Nathaniel Lyon, Jim Lane and William Quantrill are just legendary.



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I forget the exact connection(My half sister did the research) but as I recall Mr. Quantrill and I are related. at the time She told me this I was quite young and didn't really know who she was talking about. I should get a copy of her research and reacquaint myself with the facts. here is a link to an excellent dvd on the subject of Missouri/Kansas pre-civil war upheaval.
http://www.civilwargoods.com/displayFileInfo.asp?product_id=12



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Ole and BloodyBob:

Throughout 19th century history you see how so many countries reacted negatively to the Industrial Revoltuion.

So are you guys saying that if the Confederacy were around today they would be all over the Kyoto Treaty ;).



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