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| Posted: Sun Aug 26th, 2007 02:33 am |
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At long last, two years after filming ended "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" hits screens this September 21. Brad Pitt stars as Jesse James. Casey Affleck stars as Robert Ford. A new trailer is posted at <themovieblog.com>. Scroll way down the page past photos of weird conventioneers. The trailer doesn't do anything for me. It is slow, moody, and Affleck's voice grates on me. The music is wrong for the mood. I actually much preferred the first trailer which is still posted at various web sites including Yahoo. I'm hoping against hope the new trailer does not in any way reflect the actual pace tone or score of this movie. The story has so much potential. I hope Hollywood didn't mess up a golden opportunity to have a truly great "western." In contrast "3:10 to Yuma" has a fast paced, dynamic, tense trailer that really hauls you into the story and makes you want to see more while music pounds in the background building tension. With "Jesse" the music comes dangerously close to being soporific. Regardless of my apprehensions I will definitely be checking out Pitt and Affleck on the 21st. I hope some of you catch the movie too and share your opinions.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 01:15 am |
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Evening. Two Westerns at the Movie Theaters in the same month is unheard of nowadays, but am glad, and will be seeing both.  Have seen the trailer for the Pitt movie, and not all that impressed by it either. Sorta reminded me of the trailer for Costner's version of the Wyatt Earp story from the mid 1990s. Hope all is well. Regards from the Garden State, Steve Basic
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 01:36 am |
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Actually, if one stretches their imagination a bit, "September Dawn" can qualify as a "western" also because the massacre of a wagon train of immigrants portrayed did take place in the west in the 1850s. So that would make THREE westerns in one month--unheard of for decades at theaters. We used to go a year and never see a western. But there is more. "No Country for Old Men"which can be described as a "modern western" that takes place in the southwest. Maybe some would argue with me on that point. A purist would say it isn't a true western, but I have read Cormac McCarthy's book on which the movie was based and it does have a definite western vibe even though the situation is modern. This movie comes out in early December, I think. Tommy Lee Jones, Woody Harrelson and other well known actors star. None of this current crop of movies glamorizes the western. I can't wait to see them.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 01:56 am |
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Good point, as I forgot about "September Dawn". Highly doubt that will be in theaters all that long, and with stuff going on here family wise, guess I will just wait until the DVD comes out. As for Modern Westerns, I can't stand them. IMHO, it ruined the genre. And it's a trend that started many years ago. Like I need to watch Roy Rogers and Gene Autry driving vehicles, especially when they had Trigger and Champion as modes of transportation.  Not kidding, if I see a phone or any type of car or truck in a movie that is described as a western, I won't watch it. It's not a true western, IMHO.Call me old fashioned, but in terms of Westerns, I am. Hope all is well. Regards from the Garden State, Steve Last edited on Mon Aug 27th, 2007 01:57 am by Basecat |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 02:17 am |
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I hear you, Basecat, about modern westerns such as Hopalong Cassidy and Gene Autry, and the Lone Ranger. I was a kid then and I couldn't stand them either. I have to think. Maybe the Lone Ranger didn't have aspects of modern life such as phones and cars. Anyway, by modern western, I mean a storyline with the same tradition of the original westerns. "No Country for Old Men" meets that definition for me because the same story could be moved back into the 1800s and just change cars for horses, drugs for stolen money from a bank or stolen gold from a gold mine, etc and change the clothing and the story could fit right in. By the way, if 3:10 to Yuma and Jesse James are box office successes, I bet Holly- wood will put out a bunch of westerns in the next couple of years until everyone is sick and tired of them. Then they will disappear again.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 02:52 am |
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And that's the problem I have with the modern western...place the story back in them thar days...but what do I know. As for the success of the new films coming out, tend to think the new "3:10 To Yuma" will do better than the Pitt movie. Problem with Hollywood, if any genre becomes successful, instead of doing future films right, they rush everything and produce crap. The best western to hit the big screen the past few years was "Open Range" and by rights, Duvall should have gotten an Academy Award for his performance in that movie. I laugh as it came out a few months after Duvall played Lee in "Gods and Generals" and you can see which is the better script...memo to Ron Maxwell. Regards from the Garden State, Steve
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27th, 2007 05:28 pm |
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I loved Duvall in "Open Range." I have never understood why he didn't win for the movie "The Apostle" in which he was a fervent preacher who killed someone and became a fugitive, managed to set up a new church, only to have the law eventually catch up with him. It seemed that Duval put his heart and soul into the part. It must have been very draining to give so much to the role.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 02:15 am |
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My idea of the perfect western is John Wayne astride a horse being told by Robert Duvall "those are pretty bold words for a one-eyed fat man" and one of Wayne's best lines ever in a movie "fill your hand you son of a bitch!" Pure gold! Best Rob Last edited on Tue Aug 28th, 2007 02:16 am by booklover |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 04:04 am |
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ole Member 
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And those words, booklover, were the first time (IIRC), that Wayne ever uttered a vulgarity on screen. Can you imagine the backroom consternation on viewing that clip? And the forces that prevailed? Must have also been the equivalent of the shock when Joh Wayne first died in a movie. Of course, you can name that one. ole
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 10:35 pm |
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Ole, IIRC, that would be "The Cowboys". Best Rob
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28th, 2007 11:12 pm |
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Ole- Here is a list of the movies that John Wayne died in. The first time was an uncredited role in 1931. Wayne, John: John Wayne
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29th, 2007 01:57 pm |
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ole Member
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Thanks, Texas. Learn somethin new ever day.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2007 02:26 am |
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Wayne would never play a Confed. either is always in blue. Wayne is an icon .. found memories of watching him with my father Think some of the new stuff is good too 3 10 to yuma looks awsome Longriders is my favorite James movie so far. Cant beat the classics
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2007 01:14 pm |
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My favorite John Wayne movie is not a western but an "African." The movie is "Hatari" (Swahili for 'danger') and it was filmed in Kenya. It has an awesome score composed by Henry Mancini. Many of the songs from that movie can still be heard today. I first saw the movie as a young teenager and just loved it. Little did I know or dream that one day I would actually live in Kenya. In fact, my first child was born in Nairobi. Last edited on Thu Aug 30th, 2007 01:17 pm by CleburneFan |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2007 03:02 pm |
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Ole was probably going for The Sands of Iwo Jima, where his character was based on a Texas Aggie I might add. Younglobo: He played an unreconstructed Confederate in what may be my favorite John Wayne film The Searchers or is The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence my favorite? Both outstanding hard to pick which is the best.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2007 03:09 pm |
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guess i should of been clearer , i meant we never saw the duke in a confed. uniform, in the movies that the civil war was associated with . As far as i know anyway.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 6th, 2007 06:55 pm |
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I subscribe to an online newsletter for the writer Ridley Pearson. I really like his books one series is set in Seattle with a Jazz loving police dectective. I got a news letter today with a review of the new Jesse James Movie. Reading his review made me want to see the movie. Check it out http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/A3M34SJ7MQ98D1/ref=cm_blog_blog/103-7855647-7325418 Susan
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| Posted: Thu Sep 6th, 2007 11:41 pm |
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Very interesting review and well written. I am not familar with Ridley Pearson but I like the way he thinks. Whew! I didn't know the movie was two hours and forty minutes long! I'd better eat a good lunch before I go.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 7th, 2007 05:18 am |
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Order the largest popcorn but NOT the large drink.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 7th, 2007 05:41 am |
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Cleburne Fan, Take care not to smell the fumes coming from the popcorn.  ABC News: Microwave Popcorn: Easy. Yummy. Toxic? Last edited on Fri Sep 7th, 2007 05:43 am by Texas Defender |
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