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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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Bama46
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One member has had a long discussion about his hypenated status. Another mernber listed a very long list of anchestral nationalities... so where do we come from, and as important (or unimportant) does it matter?
Lets have some fun with this one and keep it light..if possible!
I am A:
French, Scottish, English, Irish, Confederate- American.
In other words, I am either a mongrel or a mutt!
But the only nationality that counts is that I am An American!
Ed
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 02:39 pm |
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susansweet
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Okay Ed, I am a Welsh-Irish -Scots-Choctaw, Cherokee-English- Confederate-Yankee-Western American. So I am first and last an American.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 04:40 pm |
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Bama46
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Susan,
But I speak two languages...English and Southern!
Ed
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 06:49 pm |
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Marie
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I'm English-Irish-Shawnee-French-Swiss-German (Alsace-Lorraine-think Amish)- Ohioan by way of Canada, Pennsylvania & Virginia.
First, last and always proud to be an American.
Regards,
Jana
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 09:22 pm |
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Bama46
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Instead of French, I should have stated French-Swiss-German for the same reason...Alsace-Lorraine
Ed
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 10:20 pm |
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Johan Steele
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I'm just a Heinz 57 w/ a little of everything in me. I'm fluent in several languages: English, Bad English and Drunkanese. I know enough Turkish, Lakota, French and Spanish to get myself to the bathroom and a beer... we won't talk about my Russian.
There is Swiss, German (Hessian), French, English, Native American (don't know what tribe), Czech, Tibetan and probably a mess more. Now my daughter has all of the above plus Canadian, French, Greek, Mohawk, African (we've no idea what)... so what does that make her? American cause if anyone calls her a mutt we'll have a long and probably uncomfortable conversation.
Pure and simple my ancestroy doesn't mean spit; I'm an American. I'm not likely to go to, let's say, Switzerland and look up relatives; what would I say? My lines been over in the US for a century, wanna catch up on old times?
Last edited on Wed Feb 6th, 2008 10:24 pm by Johan Steele
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| Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 10:53 pm |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2008 12:04 am |
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CleburneFan
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Here's a hyphenated name to consider. My elder son was born in Nairobi, Kenya. Hubby and I are American citizens. At eighteen, my son had to declare somewhere whether he was Kenyan citizen or United States citizen. He chose US citizen and registered for the US draft.
Nothing can take away the fact that he was born in Kenya. My younger son was born in Portugal. My younger son has never, ever called himself a Portuguese-American nor has my elder son ever called himself African-American or Kenyan-American.
One time I did make a blunder of mentioning that my elder son is an African-American, but in a special sense. The person to whom I was speaking took great umbrage with me and said my remark was in very poor taste. I asked why. She explained to me that an African-American is a person of African descent who is born in the United States and I was presumptuous, even racist to claim that because my son was born in Africa, but now lives in the US and is a US citizen that he is African-American. She was very angry with me and never spoke to me again.
I was not claiming for my son the rights or privileges of African-Americans in any way such as using his status to try to get him admitted to a university or any such thing. But what happened that time was to show me how sensitive the issue of claiming a hypenated status is. It also shows how complicated the issue is.
I find it too bad that my sons cannot make any claim whatsoever to having been born in another country. In fact, they do seldom tell anyone because it invariably involves long explanations. What this woman was trying to make clear to me is that my son does not claim the right to be African just because he was born there.
She probably meant that those who claim a hypenated heritage are referring to the ethnic and even racial traits of those designations. Being born in a place isn't enough.
Still, I wish we in the US wouldn't hypenate our nationality. I think it is divisive.
Last edited on Thu Feb 7th, 2008 12:05 am by CleburneFan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2008 12:28 am |
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JoanieReb
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I know that we are supposed to be keeping it light, but I just wanted to say, Thank You, Cleburne Fan for this statement:
"Still, I wish we in the US wouldn't hypenate our nationality. I think it is divisive."
(I actually have ancestry for a serious brag, but let that go a long time ago, felt boxed in by it, never mention it anymore. Oops, guess I just did... but I ain't tellin' what. Anyway, they earned it, not me. I just got their genes).
Now back to keeping it light!
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CleburneFan
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I'll make it heavy again, Joannie Reb. I have just recently found out that I have ancestors who were tried in the Salem Witch Trials. WOW! Is that a heavy trip or what? Maybe my hyphenated designation should be Accused Witch-American. 
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JoanieReb
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Hee-hee - I LIKE it! "Accused Witch American", don't hear that everyday!
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Dixie Girl
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i am
part Cherokee
Southern
and just plain American as far as i know
whatever else i am im proud of it
Last edited on Thu Aug 28th, 2008 05:40 pm by Dixie Girl
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JoanieReb
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Cleburne Fan,
Now that's a fun idea: Come up with our fantasy-hyphenated-selves!
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Fuller
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Cleburne, maybe our ancestors were neighbors! My direct Fuller line left England for Salem and Rehoboth in 1638. No traces of the witch trials on their backs but lots of other history concerning them I know.
As for me, I'm mostly English with some Welsh, German, Scottish, Swiss, Danish, Swedish and Norwegian. That translates to "whiter than Wonder bread" and I keep the spf 500 lotion handy at all times.
I vote here and I pay taxes here. There has never been any hyphenating for me.
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susansweet
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Fuller ,one side of my family arrived in Roxbury in 1636 so maybe they were neighbors of yours at some time. Since all but the Indian ancestors were from the British Isles I also keep the SP 500 handy, I have brown hair but fair skin. Burn in two seconds outside.
I forgot to add my great grandfather was born in Canada so add Canadian to the list . But then his parents were from New England area and oh yeah he was a Union Soldier in the Civil War.
Bama I speak Californian and English. Cowabunga dudes and dudettes.
Johan I have learned enough Danish in my life to order food , and tell my Danish kids to sit down, be quiet, eat your food, and ask the dog if it needs to go out side.
Living in Southern Cal and after taking two years in High school and one year in college I can speak a little spanish , mainly order off the menu in any Mexican restaraunt.
Susan
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Johan Steele
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I think one thing is clear; all of the members of this board are History-American... or maybe Hysterical-American.
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Fuller
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Johan, crazy people have more fun dontcha think? 
Susan, I'm assuming you have been to Solvang right? I love that place. Aaaaaand, I just learned how to make Aebleskivers! Yum.
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CleburneFan
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Johan Steele wrote: I think one thing is clear; all of the members of this board are History-American... or maybe Hysterical-American.
Gotta love it--History-American and Hysterical-American. I am proudly and unabashedly both!!!
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susansweet
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Fuller yes I have been to Solvang, but having been to Denmark I always found it too touristy . Usually too I was headed to Danish friends home so got better Danish food there than at Solvang.
I love it History-American , that's me . We are all Book-Americans too or Reader-Americans.
Susan
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