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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 01:12 am |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:15 am |
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Johan Steele
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Don't go cheap, go quality. You get what you pay for and frankly you can get a LOT better than sutler row for only 10-20% more.
While I know you are planning to do Reb the vendors I listed also do CS and the required gear is for a US soldier pretty much all of it can easily carry over to CS. At least you'll have an idea what you're going to need.
I don't know if you are already part of a unit but many units have deals where you can slowly buy your gear a bit at a time. But realisticly you are looking at a $1500 or so investment. If you go Sutler row you can shave 10-20% off that... don't. Go quality. I would strongly suggets you not go off half cocked and buy everything in one spree; take some time and decide what impression you want to do. Who know you might decide you want arty instead of Infantry or Cav etc. Better to buy what you need once. Look at a couple different units, ask around and think before you leap into a unit and impression. There are alot of good units out there, as well as some VERY bad ones.
Good Luck
Here are few links that I might suggest. I put an * next to those I have personally done business w/ and would suggest first.
Some Suggested Vendors
Firearms
*Lodgewood Manufacturing http://www.lodgewood.com/ (consignment page often has wonderful deals)
*Upper Mississippi Valley Merchantile Co http://www.umvmco.com/ (best deal for price)
Regimental QM http://www.regtqm.com/productindex.html pay attention to their defarb page.
Leathers & non uniform gear including brogans & tinware
James Country http://jamescountry.com/
*Upper Mississippi Merchantile Co http://www.umvmco.com/
*Missouri Boot & Shoe http://www.missouribootandshoe.com/index.asp
*The Jersey Skillet Licker http://www.skilletlicker.com/
Uniform
*Stony Brook & Co http://www.stonybrookcompany.com (Trousers) and their consighnment page often has some REAL deals. Call and talk w/ Mr Sullivan, he is a wealth of information and can help you get what you need.
*Regimental Quartermaster http://www.regtqm.com/productindex.html (Campaigner Corner for excellent Sack Coats)
*Waumbaugh White & Co http://www.wwandcompany.com/ (excellent Sack Coats)
*CJ Daley http://www.cjdaley.com/ Superb gear for those who want everything right... and who are willing to pay for it.
Hats
Dirty Billy Hats http://www.dirtybillyshats.com/
Clearwater Hats http://www.clearwaterhats.com/
Eyewear
Variety of sources
http://www.jastown.com/acces/acces.htm
http://www.metiques.com/catalog/glasses.html
Here is the short list of what you'll need, remember less is more.
Required for US: (for active members to pass muster)
Forage Cap: M1861 regulation (or 1858 or 1862 “Hardee” hat)
Sack Coat: M1858 lined or unlined with pocket, according to regimental pattern and materials.
Trousers: M1861 kersey wool, side seam pockets, according to regimental pattern and materials.
Shirt: regulation slit front style, wool or cotton, according to regimental pattern, or civilian style and materials subject to approval, or late war placket front gray wool issue style.
Shoes: laced bootees of regulation pattern, or civilian boots subject to approval.
Cartridge Box and US Plate with Shoulder Belt and Eagle Plate: M1855, 69 or 58 calibers.
Cap Box: regulation triangular from pattern.
Waist Belt and US Plate: buff or smooth leather, brass or leather clip.
Bayonet Scabbard: buff or smooth, with integral frog, Springfield patterns.
Musket or Rifle-Musket with Angular Bayonet, following patterns: US Rifle Musket Models 1855, 1861, 1842 US Musket Models or such as approved by the unit. Foreign muskets or rifle muskets with 3 barrel bands (e.g. Enfield) and a total barrel length of approximately 40” in percussion or percussion conversion.
Replicas of any of the above specified arms are acceptable.
Additional Requirements: (for active members who have passed muster) Poncho or Gum Blanket: of regimental pattern and approved materials.
Canteen: of smooth or bulls eye pattern, of brown, gray, or sky blue color and of kersey or jean cover.
Haversack: tarred and of approved pattern or White Canvas of approved Union issue.
Blanket: tan with dark brown stripes (gray acceptable).
Mess Gear: fork, spoon knife & plate of period style.
Shelter Half: of approved pattern.
Tin cup of approved pattern.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:19 am |
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Johan Steele
Life NRA,SUVCW # 48,Legion 352
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If I might suggest an Armi Sport M1842 smoothie as a rifle. For a reb probably the best all around weapon for any impression. It's a smoothie so it's easier to clean and the Armi Sport 42 is probably the best out of the box repop made (as in closest to the original)in weight and balance. Bayonet is a bit more pricey but such is life.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:21 am |
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Dixie Girl
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its a fact of life. the more expensive it is the better quality youll get.
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War Means Fighting And Fighting Means Killing - N. B. Forrest
When war does come, my advice is to draw the sword and throw away the scabbard." Stonewall Jackson
Sic Semper Tyrannis - John Wilkes Booth
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:24 am |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 04:50 am |
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Johan Steele
Life NRA,SUVCW # 48,Legion 352
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I've heard good things about their Enfield Bayonet defarb and some of their accessories and books of course. I've heard some good things about their NC jackets but I've not seen one. All things considered they're upper end sutler row IMO.
For trousers go Stony Brook $85 IIRC for ones that are made correctly and his consignment page often has very good deals on other items. His descriptions of consignments are very accurate.
Regt QM Campaigner corner has Greg Starbuck Kepis for $95, correct canteens for $50 or so (avoid Stainless as it sticks out like a sore thumb)Upper Mississipi has less expensive tin canteens that are every bit as goood but the covers are catch as ctch can for quality. Though wooden canteens are usually a pretty good bet for CS and those can go for some cheaper.
Waumbaugh & White has a variety of jackets... you're going to spend $175-$200 for one but as I said you get what you pay for. I've seen one of their commutation jackets and it was superb. I don't do CS so I'm not really the best to give advice on CS gear but there are several different option out there and you need to know what would be right for your impression. I've also heard really good things about http://www.orchardhillsutlery.com/ but I've never seen any of their gear.
Dirty Billy has a really nice Beehive hat for $100, but the guy can be a real prick if you catch him on a bad day... to the point where I probably will never again do business w/ him Clearwater hats has a beautiful slouch for $90 and along w/ Tim Bender made hats they are first rate.
For leathers both Jersey Skillet Licker & Missouri Boot and shoe are as good as they get w/ Missouri having a CS set of leathers Atlanta arsenal I believe (all the leathers you need in one shot) for around $200 IIRC. And their quality is literally unsurpassed. Now Upper Mississippi has some outstanding leathers for a much cheaper price & I think they're big tin cups are excellent BUT they generally sell what I would call high end Sutler row.
I hope that helps some; good luck.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 10:55 am |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 03:58 pm |
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susansweet
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My brother over the years has found good instruments for less money at local pawn shops. One of the instruments he bought was a bugle. Check out some of the local pawn shops in your area.
Susan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 02:59 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 11:22 pm |
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Johan Steele
Life NRA,SUVCW # 48,Legion 352
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Southern Son; no problem. One of the hardest things when getting into the hobby is buying the right things the first time. As an example I've bought 4 Sack Coats in the last 7-8 years. One is museum quality, one is high end mainstream and the other two were junk. Paid $125 think for the Museum Quality, while the junk were in the $65-$80 range. Both fell apart fairly quickly to the point one is used as a kids demo model and tyhe other is gone. The high end mainstream came from Upper Mississippi Merchantile and is superb; the only issue in comparison the museum quality is the weight of the material and lack of hand stitiching I use it for my SUVCW jacket... and my wife keeps stealing it for a light jacket. It's easy to go for the cheaper option... but when you find out you've been hoodwinked or ripped off and have to get a replacement...
I learned my lesson the hard way and would help any to avoid some of the same mistakes I've made.
Good Luck
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 01:20 am |
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Crazy Delawares
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I have heard a rumor (maybe someone here can verify) that all CW muskets will cost another $200 in a fewweeks due to the flagging dollar against the euro. A firend of mine told me to buy now and DO NOT WAIT! Can anyone verify this?
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 02:10 am |
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ole
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What goes around comes around, Crazy. If you want to panic, go for it. But a differential of $200 is a bit on the freaky side. Maybe $10 or $15. And, in a few months, they'll be paying you to buy something. This is the marketplace. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes, it's too wet to plow.
Tip your hat to your friend and say "Thank you very much." Then go home and do something logical.
ole
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 04:36 am |
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Johan Steele
Life NRA,SUVCW # 48,Legion 352
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I almost hope so, then perhaps the public who purchases the Italian, Pakistani, Indian junk will demand a better product for the money. It would make it more logical to purchase a better product made by anyone of a half dozen US smithy's.
The Enfield market is dropping like a lead baloon as an original in shotable condition can be had for $700 coming out of Afghanistan.
Used shooters in good condition can be found for reasonable prices on the NSSA, CW Reenactors & Authentic Campaigner pretty regularly.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 03:20 pm |
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Southern Son
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Hey Ole, or Johan, how do you get into a unit. There is a reanactment comin' up at Fort Pocahontas (Wilson's Warf) I want to talk to someone about joining a unit. Can you guys help?
Southern Son
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 04:13 pm |
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Johan Steele
Life NRA,SUVCW # 48,Legion 352
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Best bet is to call the event organizers and ask if they have any unit contact info. Often events will have a net site set up w/ a list of attending units. Then search to see if any of those units have a site of their own. If so there is usually a contact email or phone number listed.
Good Luck
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