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 Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2005 09:07 am
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I belong to a Civil War book discussion group that meets at the Drum Barracks here in Southern California. A Civil War site . In December we have Civil War Movie night. Each of us brings a movie about the Civil War to share.

Last year I shared Wicked Spring which is one of my new favorite Civl War movies. This year I am sharing Johnny Shiloh. This is a Disney movie from the early 60's with Moochie in the lead part. It is not bad factually for a disney film. I did some reading on Johnny Clem, the movie sticks to most of the facts.

Great Locomotive Chase is out on DVD. Check Amazon.

Favorite Civil War tv shows from my teenage years were The Rebel with Nick Adams, and the Americans, two brothers one went North. One went South . Daryl Hickman played the Union brother , Dick Davalos played the Confederate. It was only on tv for one year.

A TV movie made in the late 60's early 70's which isn't too acurate but has everyone in it Is Journey to Shiloh. James Caan is the lead, but supporting actors include Jan Michael Vincent and Paul Peterson from the Donna Reed Show. Several other young tv actors played the Concho Country Comanches heading from Texas to join up at Shiloh. The one that has the least lines is a very young Harrison Ford.
It is actually based on a Will James Novel.

I remember seeing Jim Bishops The Day Lincoln was Shot on TV in the 50's or 60's. Held my attention.

One movie I found in bargin CDs that is a hoot to watch. Called Santa Fe Trail, starring Ronald Regan as Custer and Earl Flynn as Jeb Stuart . Takes place pre Civil War on the Santa Fe Trail. Never mind that the age difference and years they graduated from West Point are a good ten years apart. See how many mistakes are made in the movie while you watch these two romp though the west . Then Watch Flynn capture John Brown at "Harper's Ferry" set on the ranch at Corriganville in Santa Clarita area of Southern California.

The General with Buster Keaton is a must see, not accurate to Andrew's raiders but worth seeing for Keaton and the stunts. No special effects back then . They really crashed engines.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 11th, 2005 07:48 pm
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What about the Red Badge of Courage, the Audie Murphy version - tho some of the equipment may have been more Spanish American war, and uniforms that are denim, it gave the feel of the CW. IF I remember correctly, when the book came out, many veterans, north and south, felt that the book did give a good impression of a CW battle.

 

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A movie is coming out next spring 2007 about the James and Younger gangs called "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" starring Brad Pitt as Jesse James and Casey Affleck as Robert Ford.  I don't know if any part of the movie will touch on the James brothers' involvement with Civil War Missouri irregular guerrilla raiders, especially William Quantrill's Raiders, experience which is said to have influenced their post war escapades. 

 I do hope that at least one such raid is shown to give perspective as to how Civil War experiences impacted James and his his fellow outlaws' post-Civil War life. Perhaps the movie could show the bloody Lawrence Massacre in Kansas.

Previews of this movie have been shown and were interesting, but the movie's release has been postponed, often not a good sign.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 29th, 2006 01:54 am
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The long Riders is a favorite of mine with all the actor brothers playing the brothers.  Our round table here has a member that gives the best presentation on Jesse James the Civil War years. This spring he is going to do another presentation Jesse James Part 2.    Right now I am reading Black Flag War . I have three books on Jesse James sitting in the pile.

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Susansweet, which of your Jesse James books do you feel is the most accurate or authentic? I recently read "Frank and Jesse James: The Story Behind the Legend" by Ted P. Yeatman. It certainly seems to be exhaustively researched and changed some of the mistaken ideas I had held many years. After I read the book, I realized that I had some confusion in my mind between Billy the Kid and Jesse James!:?

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 Posted: Wed Nov 29th, 2006 02:35 am
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That is the one that my friend the Jesse James" expert " told me was the best of the books out right now.  I haven't read them yet so don't know which s the best.  I just am taking Paul's word for it . 

 

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 Posted: Wed Nov 29th, 2006 02:42 am
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What "Gone with the Wind" did do well was depict the fall of Atlanta. It has a chillingly realistic scene with hundreds and hundreds of suffering wounded and mortally wounded soldiers layed out side by side in the hot sun on the clay soil, all moaning and writhing in pain. Scarlett O' Hara, always self centered, barely takes notice because she wants the sole surgeon present to come help Melany deliver her child.

The scene inside and outside that hospital is unforgettable, haunting. Also scenes showing Atlanta burning as Confederates set fire to war materiel they are unable to take with them. 

Particularly telling at the start of the movie are the scenes showing how eager the young white males were to go to war and how easy they believed it would be to whup the Yankees.  Only Rhett Butler, the blockade runner, seemed to appreciate how difficult and wrenching the coming conflict would be.

Yes, GWTW definitely has its soap opera aspects, but it does show some of the truly harsh aspects of war both for civilains and the military, perhaps better than any movie had done up to that time.

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