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ole
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the main question is, is there any evidence of a meeting
of any kind between former Confederate General Forrest and
new President Grant in 1869 ?
Have heard the story; have seen no evidence.
ole
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 04:06 pm |
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First discrepency I notice is tha tthe author has Forrest's name wrong. His name was NATHAN Bedford Forrest, and he did not go by Bedford.. and he should have known this...makes the rest of the statement questionable in my mind.
Ed
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 05:55 pm |
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beg pardon, sir!
I am still of the opinion that this is, in the word of Col. Potter, CO of MASH 4077.."Horse Hockey"
Ed
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 06:16 pm |
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ole
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when was Grant sworn in as president?
1869. Probably March.
did Forrest attend any of the cermonies ?
Doubtful.
did Forrest ever meet with Grant between Grant's inauguration & the disbanding order?
I know of no occasion when he did.
how do I get so obsessed with such trivial little points of history?
Most of us are similarly afflicted.
is a cure possible?
Dying is the only one I know of. As that is unacceptable therapy, your only recourse is to find the sunny side and learn to enjoy the affliction.

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| Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 07:24 pm |
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JDC trivial history is an addiction. No cure is to be found except as Ole says dying and that is not acceptable. Interesting topic though it sounds doubtful the two would have met .
What's fun is the hunt for the answer that is just driving you crazy. The who or the what or the where that answers the question you are searching. I have had this affliction since I was a small child .
Just a thought there is a book that came out last year called Men of Fire. Grant Forrest and the campaign that decided the Civil War by Jack Hurst . Might check that book to see if anything is said there.
Miss Susan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 12:19 am |
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I am going strickly by memory here but I believe reconstruction did not end until the election of Rutherford B Hayes...1876? or thereabouts... As I recall, that election was thrown into the house and in return for democratic support of Hayes, reconstruction ended or was soon ended after his inaugraution. To suggest that Grant and Forrest had some sort of secret deal in '68 just does not wash with me.
When did reconstruction end? If it ended in '68, then maybe there was a conspiracy. If it ended in '76, then maybe there was a deal....
In any event, it began in shame and ended the same way MHO!
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ole
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The advantage of the story is in that it cannot be disproved. As Bama said, the dates do line up.
Where I balk is Forrest's real role with the klownish klan.
Forrest Fanciers insist that it was a name-only figurehead position. I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. (I don't see him making plans and organizing strategies and directing tactics in this situation. More like, "Go ahead and say what you want if you figure it will do some good. Now, go away.")
There is some evidence that Forrest was personally involved a time or two in some questionable klan-like "police" activities. I suppose it's possible that he got personally involved a time or two, but associating him with the klan as we know it is stretching things a bit too far.
Forrest was one of those Confederates that accepted defeat. I believed him when he said something like, "You boys are on your own. I'm going home." And he did. And he set about rebuilding his life. I'll need better evidence before I believe that he did much more than that.
ole
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 02:07 am |
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OLe,
My hat is off, sir...
You have posted a comment that is IMHO a dead on bullseye.
I could not agree more...That is exactly what Forrest did, and I concur that his involvement with the 19th century KKK is as a figurehead as opposed to Stud Duck or whatever.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 05:53 am |
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Okay this is getting scary that is the second time this month you two have agreed. Is there a change in the weather ?
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 05:56 am |
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Ed that rang a bell with me that Hayes had something to do with ending Reconstruction, A book on tape I listened to on his lfe and Presidency. I just checked and that is right . He removed the last troops from the south and ended reconstruction 1876.
Susan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 04:45 pm |
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I believe Forrest is one of the most maligned figures to come out of the war. It really distresses me to continue to hear or read about this or that atrocity, conspiracy, etc attributed to him. Accordingly, I am gratified to see OLe not be sucked in by the "hate Forrest Movement"
Ed
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