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Texas Defender wrote: Unionblue-

  It was a central theme of the : "leaders of secession" that the US Constitution limited the powers of the Federal Government and reserved  unspecified powers to the people and the states (in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.).

  Many of their writings and statements expressed the view that the Federal Government had exceeded its authority and encroached on the rights of the states and the people. The general idea was that the compact between the states and the people with the object they created, the Federal Government, had been broken, and thus they were reclaiming their previous status.

  Since you have asked for examples from the ordinances of secession, I would refer you to that of Kentucky. It presents in a nutshell the legal argument for secession, and obviously refers to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments of the US Constitution.

  "Wheras, the Federal Constitution, which created the Government of the United States, was declared by the framers thereof to be the supreme law of the land, and was intended to limit and did expressly limit the powers of said Government to certain general specified purposes, and did expressly reserve to the States and people all other powers whatever, and the President and Congress have treated this supreme law of the Union with contempt and usurped to themselves the power to interfere with the rights and liberties of the States and the people against the expressed provisions of the Constitution, and have thus substituted for the highest forms of national liberty and constitutional government a central despotism founded upon the ignorant prejudices of Northern society, and instead of giving protection to the people of fifteen States of this Union have turned loose upon them the unrestrained and raging passions of mobs and fanatics, and because we now seek to hold our liberties, our properties, our homes, and our families under the protection of the reserved powers of the States, have blockaded our ports, invaded our soil, and waged war upon our people for the purpose of subjugating us to their will;  .........................."

Kentucky Ordinance of Secession

 




Texas Defender,

Thank you for the above post and link to the Kentucky Ordinance of Secession.

Sorry to appear so dense, but where specifically within the shown ordinance did Kentucky claim secession under the 9th and 10th amendments to the US Constitution?

I admit that I am reluctant to guess at where they precisely say such in their ordinance.

Plus, I must add, TD, that I am somewhat in doubt that the above ordinance represented the people of Kentucky, as it claims, as this was passed in Russellville, KY, by a group styling themselves as such.

I found a website which contains all the ordinances of secession for the Southern States, in an effort to help you with identifying those Southern States that based their states secession on the 9th and 10th amendments.

http://www.constitution.org/csa/ordinances_secession.htm

I would appreciate which one of those meet the criteria of such.

Sincerely,

Unionblue


Last edited on Wed Dec 16th, 2009 05:43 am by Unionblue



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