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 Posted: Thu May 11th, 2006 10:39 pm
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Judy Johnson
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Did anyone have a rank called Chief Boatwain mate/ Or Chief of the boat. There seems to be a little dispute in our group.

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Cook Johnson

USS Tahoma/WCWA



 Posted: Thu May 11th, 2006 11:22 pm
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Judy,

Among many on a ship (or boat, depending on the type of vessel), Chief Boatswains Mate has another name - GOD. I can guarantee you I was never one, but was certainly taken to task by enough of them. Technically, all officers outrank them. Realistically, very few officers are stupid enough to talk down to them. About the only thing scarier than a CBM is a Senior or Master Chief BM. What did you need to know?



 Posted: Thu May 11th, 2006 11:43 pm
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Thank you for your reply. I sure you are aware there are those of a group that think they are to only one to know. I know I can  go to this discussion board and get a correct answer.

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Judy



 Posted: Fri May 12th, 2006 03:01 pm
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Judy:

In my experience everything about the navy in rank ;).



 Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 11:55 am
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I need to know if there was any rank with the word Chief attached to it.

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Judy



 Posted: Tue May 16th, 2006 12:04 pm
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Judy:

Chief Petty Officer (E-7)
Senior Chief Petty Officer (E-8)
Master Chief Petty Officer (E-9)

So a Chief Boatswains Mate was someone with one of the above rates (or rank) and a rating of Boatswains Mate, hence Chief Boatswains Mate.



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Were these ranks applicable during the civil war?

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Judy



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Judy -

Very sorry, appears I misunderstood - I thought you were asking about modern day. It appears the Chief PO rank didn't start till after the Civil War. From the Navy's website:

Petty Officers in our Navy got their first rank insignia in 1841 when they began wearing a sleeve device showing an eagle perched on an anchor. Some Petty Officers wore the device on their left arms while others wore it on their right. All wore the same device. Specialty or rating marks did not appear officially until 1866 but they seem to have been in use for several years previously. Regulations sometimes serve to give formal status to practices already well established.

In 1885 the Navy recognized it three classes of Petty Officers--first, second and third--and in the next year let them wear rank insignia of chevrons with the points down under a spread eagle and rating mark. The eagle faced left instead of right as it does today.

The present Petty Officer insignia came about in 1894 when the Navy established the Chief Petty Officer rank and gave him the three chevrons with arc and eagle. The first, second and third class Petty Officers also began wearing the insignia they do today.



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Good morning, Judy...

Saw your affiliation with the USS Tahoma. I've come across that ship before in my researches here in Tampa, Florida. USS Tahoma threw some shells into downtown Tampa in Oct.1863[?] and, IIRC, covered a landing of some Union troops [including Colored Troops] to raid up the Hillsborough River. They sank two of Capt. James McKay's blockade runners -- they took cattle to Havana and brought back gold, medicines, et al. McKay got caught by the US Navy and was coerced to carry materiel to Key West and other Union outposts on east and west coast Florida in order to stay out of the brig.

Art Bagley / Tampa, FL



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Thank you for your information. I will pass it on to my group.

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Judy



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