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 Posted: Wed Apr 11th, 2007 01:11 pm
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Does anyone know of a good website that has detailed OoBs, including troop numbers, artillery battery composition etc? For example, I am researching a more detailed OoB for the two assaults on Fort (Battery) Wagner in July 1863, epecially the second assault.



 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 02:50 am
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Wikipedia under "Lists of Orders of Battles" has orders of battle for many periods of history and quite a few AMerican Civil War battles. I do not know if these lists cover the battles that interest you or if they are as detailed as you might wish. Check it out though. It might be a start.



 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 11:55 am
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And just a suggestion...always cross refence Wikepedia references...just to ensure accuracy....

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 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 11:59 am
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Thanks, Guys. Have already looked at the Wikipedia sources, which do need to be cross-referenced for sure.

I am after ones like this one for Antietam: http://aotw.org/oob.php, into which you can drill down.

It would be great to find a site that consolidates OoB info for at least all the major battles. I do have quite a few books, of course, (eg Shelby Foote, Stephen Sears etc) but they don't always go to the level of detail I am after.



 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 12:05 pm
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Ignore Wikpedia... try  http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pottery/1080/index.htm

Not 100% accurate but pretty darn good.  Has a tendency to omit Regt's on the outskirts of a battle.

 

And while not the OOB's you are asking for this is an absolute must in your links; Dyers Compendium.  http://www.civilwararchive.com/regim.htm

Good Luck



 Posted: Thu Apr 12th, 2007 02:23 pm
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Have seen no OoB carried to the detail you'd like, Stoneveld. You might have to do it yourself. Download a good one and convert to a word processing document. Then build on it using your books, Battles & Leaders, and other sources to provide the details you want.

When I'm reading a book on a battle, I keep a hard copy of the OoB next to me. I can make notes in the OoB and update it later. For example, I've never seen one that identifies guns in a battery, but a book might.

For Antietam, there is an old document (1942) on the artillery present. Perhaps there are similar documents for other major battlefields.

Ole



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I believe I have an OOB for Antieten showing quite a lot of the info you are asking for.  I'm away from my library till next week.  PM me a reminder & I'll post it for you.



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Virtual Antietam has an extensive OOB and is a good website for the battle which includes excellent maps.

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Best website I know of for Antietam is Brian Downey's at http://aotw.org/  . I'd be surpised if there's not an in-depth OOB there.



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Thanks, that was what I was implying.

Doc C



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Gotcha Doc C. The oob is at http://aotw.org/oob.php . Looks like you can drill down pretty deep.



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Thanks for the plug to the Antietam OOB, Joe!

As you drill down you'll also find links to commanding officers (most all of them, including battle replacements, I think), artillery weapons, battle maps, after-action reports, unit histories, etc.  I don't have strength or casualty figures for most units.  Except in a few well documented cases, these are not actually known, for sure, and I don't generally publish guesses or estimates.

If you want the best for Gettysburg [argghh, I said the G word] try Eicher's Ultimate OOB:

http://www.gdg.org/Research/OOB/EicherOOB.htm

Regards,
Brian



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Stoneveld,

It is very rare for an author or a website to have a truly complete OOB, ie. numbers, losses, armaments, arty gun types. It takes a great deal of effort to compile and the information doesn't always exist.  Luckily, for what you're looking for, Stephen Wise has a very detailed OOB in his book Gate of Hell.  It is a very fine book and copies are fairly easy to find.

Drew

 

Stoneveld wrote:
Does anyone know of a good website that has detailed OoBs, including troop numbers, artillery battery composition etc? For example, I am researching a more detailed OoB for the two assaults on Fort (Battery) Wagner in July 1863, epecially the second assault.



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Johan Steele wrote: Ignore Wikpedia... try  http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pottery/1080/index.htm

Not 100% accurate but pretty darn good.  Has a tendency to omit Regt's on the outskirts of a battle.

 

And while not the OOB's you are asking for this is an absolute must in your links; Dyers Compendium.  http://www.civilwararchive.com/regim.htm

Good Luck

Thank you for the links Johan. :) I've been looking for something like this for awhile.



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